That’s true in theory - but in practice, it takes a very specific kind of person to turn messy reality (churn risk, acquisitions, segmentation, AI buzzwords, competing priorities) into clear action for customers and teams.
That’s exactly what Kimberly “KG” Gress does. KG - Chief Customer Success Officer at Energage and founder of C2O Advisors - sat down with Steve Wood and Chris Port to talk key insights on customer success, AI, and leadership.

Kimberly starts her story not with her title, but with her grandfather, Eugene Fiorino.
He came to the U.S. from Italy in 1921, in the hull of a ship, convinced the streets would be “paved in gold.” When they weren’t, he was too proud to go back - so he stayed, opened a cobbler shop in Philadelphia, and worked there until he was 93.
From him, she absorbed a few things that now quietly power everything she does as a CS leader:
On paper, Kimberly is a comp sci and math grad who survived automata theory and studied “AI” back in the early ’80s. In practice, she’s someone who:
That mix of nerdy, grounded, and human flows straight into how she leads CS teams.
KG jokes that she was “promoted into management because I was a terrible programmer.” But that move turned into a career-defining path:
At Boomi, Kimberly and the team:
Ask yourself:
When Kimberly joined Energage, she tried to copy-paste the Boomi model. It didn’t work.
Boomi:
Energage:
Her first big realization:
“I had to change how I think. I couldn’t just force an enterprise model onto a high-velocity business.”
So she let the data tell her how to think:
Then Energage acquired another company with more enterprise-style customers. Now she’s managing two very different motions at once:
That creates complexity across:
And yes, a lot of fear:
“The model’s ready to go, we’re launching Jan 1… and everyone’s afraid we missed something.”
KG’s answer:
Hustle + data + iteration, not perfection.
If you’ve just acquired a product (and customers), ask:
KG is clear-eyed about AI: she’s excited about it, but she’s not romantic about it.
Right now, AI is actively helping in Support:
They’re testing it with humans in the loop first. If it continues to perform, they’ll consider automating direct responses to customers.
On the Customer Success side, AI tools aren’t fully in place yet - but Kimberly is very clear on what she wants:
And she’s very honest about the AI vs. automation confusion we all feel:
“I always get AI and automation intermingled… I want AI to tell me where the expansion opportunities are. I can automate the simple tasks.”
If you’re trying to bring AI into CS, KG’s path maps nicely into three phases:
KG is unapologetic about the value of true Customer Success.
She agrees that:
But she also pushes back hard on:
“Everyone can do customer success.”
In her world:
She doesn’t have a perfect new title for the function (though “Customer Journey Ninja” made a cameo), but she’s certain of its core:
Everything else is decoration.
When KG describes herself as a “business human being,” she lists three things in order:
She still mentors people both inside Energage and outside the company. She sees it as her way of giving back, just as much as any formal “social impact” project.
If you lead a CS org, ask yourself:
CS is not a 9-5 job, and Kimberly doesn’t pretend otherwise.
She doesn’t sell a fantasy of effortless balance. She calls it what it is:
“There’s no balancing. There’s only juggling and prioritizing.”
How she makes it work:
Her two sons? One’s a data engineer, the other’s a data analyst doing a master’s in data science and applied statistics. The data gene runs deep.
Outside of work, Kimberly is geeking out on game nights:
It’s a small detail, but important: the same person leading complex, AI-curious, data-driven CS motions is also someone who unapologetically loves Friday martinis, wings, and merciless game nights.
That kind of wholeness is exactly what makes people want to work with her, not just for her.
Here are a few prompts you can use with your team (or yourself) this week:
If you’re a CSM, CS leader, or aspiring “Customer Journey Ninja,” Kimberly’s story is a solid reminder that great Customer Success isn’t magic.
It’s:
And maybe a standing Friday night martini.